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#11 (permalink)      11/29/2021 8:04:58 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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dub09 wrote:

That isn't how "Switches" work in VV/VW mods.
The switch on chip driven devices DO NOT act the same as the switches in mech mods.


Sure, when they have good Mosfet(s) and the switching power is very low.
And, years ago, an asian specialist in this forum found the data sheet of the Atto switch:
the livetime was over within a year if used in the Atto.
This thread gives me the feeling,
companies want to build cheaper and cheaper.
And iggibuh payed 66$, same price for 3 mech mods.

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Troepfler wrote:

carrion4worm wrote:
I feel EVERY regulated mod should at least have 5 or 6 volts usable output, whether it gets used or not.
Mech mods have big big copper switches to manage the power.
These plastic mods have switches known from computers.
That works, but only for a year.
And that only works, if they keep the stress for the switch low.



yeah, you can switch out those switches

#13 (permalink)      11/30/2021 6:50:04 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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A mosfet is a 2cent chip. It's still not regulated, and a mosfet's only real "duty" in mech mods is to remove the fire button from the travel path.

Mosfets are great for mech lovers who hate stiff presses, dirty copper and grimy threads all making the "mechanical" part of mech mod less than pleasing. A good mosfet is wonderful, but it's not a chip-driven, regulated mod.

I love a "clicky" fire button. A mosfet is how to get that in a mech mod. Not as perfect an execution in tube mods, due to size/shape requirements....but still good.
What does he mean when he says words?
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I still think: less electronics = less problems = longer livespan = cheaper vaping.
With my (only) 17 old style mech mods I had in the last 8 years no repairs.
8 of them are my favorite Mod/RDA combinations, heavy use.

On another 3 Attos with low use I had to replace the chip because the switch was gone.

Even Cthulhu tube with chip moved from side fire to bottom switch:
Older Side fire: SKU 9689491
New Bottom switch: SKU 9743883
That seems logic, perhaps too many complains about the tiny side fire switch.
And thats a way to make mech mods much safer.
But why there is the chip under the 510 (condensation/liquid),
better to install the chip into the bottom switch.

Edit: conclusion: Dear Cthulhu, put the chip into the bottom switch,
and tell your chip we need a constant volt output at e.g. 4.0V.

(btw: V0 was with the leaf spring with the IKEA buffer stopper)

Edited on 11/30/2021 at 3:11 PM. Reason:
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I wonder why the question to the voltage output got turned into a debate on mech mods ;)


Regardless

Mech mode = no wires, no switches, no mosfet

unregulated mod = mosfet as a example
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#17 (permalink)      12/1/2021 4:33:48 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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iggibuh wrote:

I wonder why the question to the voltage output got turned into a debate on mech mods ;)


I think C4 explained that very good.
E.g. he wrote in post #6:
Yep, there was a time when the casual mod purchase didn't require as much research! Now it seems every company building 18650 mods feels the need to not include a boost circuit - which is nonsense, especially considering cost vs. consumer desires.
I feel EVERY regulated mod should at least have 5 or 6 volts usable output, whether it gets used or not.

That perhaps means, companies try to hold the power stress low,
to use cheaper parts in the mod.
And/or the companies say: starters use this mod, better no booster.

But 66$ is a lot of money, and in FTs data sheet is nothing written about the zero booster,
Edit: only "Operating Voltage: 3.2-4.2V", do they mean the battery voltage or the output voltage?
Perhaps FT should write: Output Voltage.
Time to think about cheaper solutions with the same or better vaping result as AIOs.


Edited on 12/1/2021 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Operating Voltage
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If people really wanted "cheap vaping", Troep, they would buy a simple DNA mod, with Evolv's free lifetime repairs.

...And be done!
What does he mean when he says words?
#19 (permalink)      12/6/2021 7:07:50 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Anyone have had their hands on this and inspected if the boost chip exists on this model or nah? All of the English language youtube reviews don't tackle this issue/nuance.
Smoking is Dead, Vaping is the Future, and the Future is Now... So I will ask a percentage of your sales for each device review I do.
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dub09 wrote:

All of the English language youtube reviews don't tackle this issue/nuance.


Which goes to show just how piss-poor some YooToob reviews have now become, with so-called 'Reviewers' banging out videos a day or two after receiving it in the post. Hardly surprising then that details like this are missed.

It's twelve inches long, but don't use it as a rule...
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analogueman wrote:

dub09 wrote:
All of the English language youtube reviews don't tackle this issue/nuance.
Which goes to show just how piss-poor some YooToob reviews have now become, with so-called 'Reviewers' banging out videos a day or two after receiving it in the post. Hardly surprising then that details like this are missed.




The worst part imo is the guy putting his name on that design saying they spend about 2 years in dev dint make sure it could do a decent amount of voltage output. For someone thats been in the game this long its pure stupidity/greed from Tony B