Aesthetically and what they have picked for names... Gunther, and Nicolas as tank names? I feel like they missed a trick by not saying crude things about putting Gunther's tip in your mouth. They could have easily been the first vape company to exclusively target gay vapors. Instead it just sort of seems like they are awful at naming things, and not great at making aesthetically appealing products.

I have heard great things about the quality of the products though, built well and work well, all that really matters in the end. I have one of the early RTA's they did, the core. It's OK, not amazing, not awful.