It's not likely you'll see a quality Juggernaut mini, or any QP clones from here on out. The maker of the previous two clones (Fatality M25, Nio) is Wejoytech, the actual maker of Authentic QP products. QP threatened to take their business elsewhere if any more "clones/overruns" found their way to market. The only reason the "clone" Nio rdas made it to market was QP was not happy with the V1 Nio (hint: airflow sucks), and Wejoy had a whole 'nother batch already made.

Back in QP's earliest days, the occasional "Ulton" branded QP clone would appear, but the "mystique" around QP has lessened, now that most savvy users know they are paying triple for a "clone-maker's atty". Long story short, IF a QP clone appears, it will probably be sub par, and from a small machine shop (like Steam Tribe).

Still good products, and I hear they have good service online.(QP, not Steam Tribe)

Honesty. Your experience is more in line with what most users say. The only way anyone will ever get good service is by being on their Facebook page, where the whole world can see what goes on, and their online reputation is at stake. Not right, of course, but we all tend to act better when someone's watching, right?

I have no issue with the products, though I know bad threads, missing O-rings, etc. make it through to consumers. I truly believe WeJoy was overwhelmed with the large batches and run numbers early on, but in typical Chinese fashion, they pushed through at record speed to get it done (on to the next job). For better, or worse, but there are MUCH worse...

Oh, I forgot that horrible mod they made...it's terrible, cheap looking, and cheap feeling. But the atties are okay.

Finally I hear some bad shit about qp. I bought an authentic gata last year cause of the hype around it and was pretty disappointed with it.

I threw everything at it Claptons, framed staples, simple and complex MTL coils. The airflow was turbulent as fuck and the MTL was a joke cause of the air getting in from the rdl air hole the other side cause the airflow ring was just too loose.

Scratchy threads, sketchy engraving I actually thought it was a clone.

I was putting the tenth or twentieth tweaked build in there and ended up dropping it. The retainer ring around the deck bent in on one side and I just fucked it off.

I mean a pmma bell cap in 2020? £50 on an rta man. Won't be doing it again in a hurry.

Yep,that rta was a mis-step, and far from what they are known for, or what they're good at. All the smooth threads in the world wouldn't fix that dumpster fire of an atty. It's not that it's bad, it's that it's just not good, really GOOD, at anything, especially MTL. I''m sorry you had a bad experience with it, but know that you are not alone.