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#1 (permalink)      7/27/2020 7:20:47 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Aggressive animal handling....
Anyone have experience with handling "feral" animals?




Bought a new trap for these damn racoons, and I'm stuck thinking about how to handle it afterwards since I will be moving them from the trap and into a dog cage to relocate....


Should I go about just man handling the fuckers with some bite resistant gloves, or just make one of those ghetto noose on a stick things?



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Someone I know at present has one camping out on their back porch.

Some advice given, although no idea if this would pertain to you.

a few years ago we had a racoon family that enjoyed hanging outside our backyard ( although at a distance) but we had poop all over as a result. We ended up calling someone and he put wolf pee down around the area. It marked the territory with a new animal that was more dominant and so the raccoons left.
They sell the stuff on amazon - I really don’t know if it’s the same as what the guy used) but just a suggestion. It just is like dry stuff that you sprinkle it dissolves so it’s not like the racoon will eat it but just make sure it can’t kill them. For us the smell deterred them and I didn’t hVe markings since. Hope this helps.




Well I have a pair of heavy work gloves I've used to scruff and remove raccoons from my deck. If you're not familiar with the process though, I maybe wouldn't recommend it? It's a comfort level thing and I can only say what has worked for me.
If you do decide to escort him out forcefully, you can grab them at the back of the neck and haunches. I've been told you can also grab their tail as a secondary point while scruffing, but I personally never grab any animal by the tail. Two of the guys I've done it to have gone limp, but the third screamed bloody murder. Just make sure they can't grab onto anything as you carry them--they're a lot stronger than they look!!
Also beware of distemper, rabies, roundworm, etc. Dousing the area the Sleepy Boi was on with boiling water will be enough to kill most things they leave behind.




The woman that asked laid down coyote urine and it left


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I guess the easy decision is to make the noose on a stick.... Less contact, cheaper(free as I have materials)



Looking at gloves, the descriptions don't help much, prices go up to 200$, and there are wrist\elbow\shoulder length gloves and I'm not sure whether to get elbow or shoulder gloves.


I still have to buy the dog cage also. Should be easy, I just need one with a flat\sealed bottom in case they wanna piss or shit while traveling in my trunk.
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Tried coyote piss last season, nada. They come back right after it rains and the scents gone. It gets expensive really fast.


I figured I'd grab them by the neck scruff and ass fat(flop of skin above the tail). Dealing with squirrels and grabbing their tail,they won't hesitate to break it off and run like hell. Rabies is exactly why I'm trying to figure out full precautions before I man handle the fuckers.










The trap, honestly, is for the times I don't catch them in the act and shoot them on sight. My dad gets pissy if something was shot when it's "forced to stay" (it's trapped). If he's not home, il shoot the fuckers.








The cages we have are too small to fit some of the coons so they get away. Next biggest cage is a coyote trap and it's too big to stick in a trunk or fit in the backseat of my small ass car. The trap that's on the way is a "dogproof paw trap". No cage. That's where the dog cage and some proper handling is needed.








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Just shoot them and dispose of their bodies accordingly.
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djvillan wrote:

Just shoot them and dispose of their bodies accordingly.



I will and do, if timing permits. Which is about 60% of the time.



This thread is for the time I can't shoot, and have to deal with relocation because someone already saw it trapped....








Had to get the paw trap, which makes it a fuckton easier to shoot, because these extra fat fucks.




I think il try the noose on a stick first, if it's a pain in the ass il turn towards the gloves and man handle them fuckers.

































What I really need is one of those mouse\bucket drowning traps in industrial size.

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If you guys can relocate the animals but would rather kill them ... maybe see a shrink? Or at least listen to your father. He sounds compassionate.
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Unless you plan to eat the rodent. In this case carry on ya sickos.
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Honestly, relocating them is just as bad but more suffering.


You took it somewhere where other animals have claimed territory and it's chance of survival is maybe 2 weeks. Or you took it 2 blocks away and it comes right back and causes trouble again.




Is it more humane to put a projectile in its head and kill it, or throw it to other animals to tear them apart alive?
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Jubby wrote:

Unless you plan to eat the rodent. In this case carry on ya sickos.




Definitely not eating the trash pandas. Eweewwwwww

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Skeeeets wrote:

is it more humane to put a projectile in its head and kill it, or throw it to other animals to tear them apart alive?




Wow. Reading that back... It sounds like our prison system.

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