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#81 (permalink)      12/17/2021 5:07:05 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Troepfler wrote:

My first new 21700 pure mech mod: Vindicator SKU 9695216 FT price 17$ Old style RDA SKU 9629096 FT price 6.15$ The 21700 Molicel P42A, cheap.Total: 23.19$


I am waiting now close to 3 weeks.
With this prepaid customs for EU, OK that is Corona or German customs.
I would like to write a review about the mod,
with a special view about the safety.

But until this thing arrives,
what is your best choice for a 18650 tube mech mod with a chip safety device?

And did you think about protected batteries (PCB with fuse) for your mech mod?
With a short check, I have seen 10Amps with 3.500mAh.
They are in 18650 about 69mm long and not 65mm.


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Unless you are a low wattage MTL vaper don't even think about 3,500mah 18650s. They are great for flashlights but the battery sag means shitty performance in a mech - and if you build lower to compensate you are asking for trouble.

You may have problems with the length of protected batteries, I think you are better off using regular unprotected flat tops and a chipped mod.
#83 (permalink)      12/17/2021 5:38:56 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Crispycritters wrote:

Unless you are a low wattage MTL vaper don't even think about 3,500mah 18650s. They are great for flashlights but the battery sag means shitty performance in a mech - and if you build lower to compensate you are asking for trouble.

You may have problems with the length of protected batteries, I think you are better off using regular unprotected flat tops and a chipped mod.


Yes, I was thinking about the people who do not need a 10A battery.
If you just need 5A with a 10A battery, you are on the safe side.

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Troepfler wrote:

drowzee wrote:
is the button on the SMPL(SP) clone that sketchy?
Yes, it is because it does not have a flat surface to battery minus.
Within 7 years I only had one short (in a SS mech mod).
The thing heats up very fast and very hot, all plastic parts melted.
I was feeling the heat in my vest and had time to react.
If you dont see or feel your mod, this thing will catch fire.
I am using my SMPLs only at home, in the car the Nemesis.
E.g. Plume Veil SKU 1891702 still has the Nemesis construction,
but much longer than the 79mm SMPL and button without lock.


Hello old covid warrior.

Glad you are present 😊

I had a small topper from that company in Europe - paps - short fast and burnt a spot inside I had to dremel smooth.

Nemesis out and about for me too 😊

Up (censored by PRC) creek with a 8 inch long piece of fecal matter for a paddle
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Crispycritters wrote:

You may have problems with the length of protected batteries


Yes, this is the question, which mech mods accept 18690 ?
I still have 3 telescoping Pisces mods build in 2013, later the name was Kylin.
Very nice looking tube mods, they accept 18700, e.g. A ... a still offers them if you buy 5.
And there are also PCB 18690 with 15Amps, Ke ... er with 2600/3000/3120 mAh,
base is Sony Konion, LG or Samsung.
The industry should close now the chapter of non protected mech mods,
the solution is a chip- or a PCB-protected tube mech mod.

Edit: and please, not again this Atto story.


Edited on 12/18/2021 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Atto story
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Troepfler wrote:

Crispycritters wrote:
You may have problems with the length of protected batteries
Yes, this is the question, which mech mods accept 18690 ?
I still have 3 telescoping Pisces mods build in 2013, later the name was Kylin.
Very nice looking tube mods, they accept 18700, A ... a still offers them if you buy 5.
And there are also PCB 18690 with 15Amps, Ke ... er with 2600/3000/3120 mAh,
base is Sony Konion, LG or Samsung.
The industry should close now the chapter of non protected mech mods,
the solution is a chip- or a PCB protected tube mech mod.



I suppose when it comes to batteries there are winners and losers, the manufacturers really have to cater for sizes that are readily available to maximise sales.

The Serisvape Bathala is telescoping and will take 18650 to 21700 so the sizes you mention should be ok.

I think you are forgetting that many mech users like pure mechs with no electronic interference, it would be good if there was more choice and availability of basic protection chips and suitable tubes - but not at the cost of abandoning pore mechs. Closing a chapter before it has finished doesn't make good business sense.

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Thanks CC for the tip with Bathala, very good idea.
Perhaps someone finds a 22mm mech mod which accepts 18690.
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Crispycritters wrote:

I think you are forgetting that many mech users like pure mechs with no electronic interference ... but not at the cost of abandoning pore mechs. Closing a chapter before it has finished doesn't make good business sense.


Thats true.
But we have starters in this forum, they just buy and try.
Even if you write "this thing can be very dangerous" they still buy and try, thats normal.
If FT would be under EU/US law, they would stop to sell these things without protection very fast.
I would like to have a SS/brass 22mm high amp tube mech mod WITH protection.

And the same thing with constant voltage output would be great,
but I understand, there is more money in the AIOs business.

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Troepfler wrote:My first new 21700 pure mech mod: Vindicator SKU 9695216 FT price 17$ Old style RDA SKU 9629096 FT price 6.15$ The 21700 Molicel P42A, cheap.Total: 23.19$.


Vindicator, Hippo and P42A arrived,
very nice and very hard hitting, not too heavy,
SMPL with Derringer and battery is 145gr,
Vindicator with Hippo and 21700 battery is 234gr.
But the Vindicator switch spring is too strong,
perhaps OK with the right hand,
but with the left hand it is difficult.
Tried to open the switch to exchange the spring,
but no way to open the switch.
Is the thread left or right?
Perhaps I should cook this switch in oil?
Or try with Ice Spray?
Now I have glued a "buffer stopper" to the switch,
that makes switching more easy,
but this is not the solution.

Edit: this is the switch:
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.vaperchoice.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F03%2Fimagejpg_b98dd03c-966e-472a-aa0a-e6902ce7b9a5.jpg%3Ffit%3D2161%252C1589%26ssl%3D1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vaperchoice.com.au%2Fproduct%2Fkennedy-the-vindicator-21700-mech-tube-mod%2F&tbnid=pFlwCaRgeRYIJM&vet=12ahUKEwj63qHLxcj1AhXLwKQKHdiiC1YQMygvegUIARDjAg..i&docid=YojsOu95HSF96M&w=2161&h=1589&q=vindicator%20switch&ved=2ahUKEwj63qHLxcj1AhXLwKQKHdiiC1YQMygvegUIARDjAg


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Each Vindicator switch has two "presses" or "throws". With the button removed, you shouls see a series of notches. Push the button to extend the firing pin, and turn the pin so it fits into the alternate set of grooves.

It may not solve your "stiff switch" issue, but that's its' intended purpose.

Also, the switch operates much better with pressure held against it...i.e., fully assembled, with a battery installed
What does he mean when he says words?
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Some Vindicator clones use a main spring that wound from thicker wire and is much stiffer than the original.

I bought an SS version with the constant contact switch about a year ago and the fire button was way too firm. I cut a loop from the top of the spring and reformed the cut end using heat and pliers. The throw is still firm but much easier to use now.