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#1 (permalink)      12/23/2021 8:10:02 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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Okay. Here in the US, Amazon, eBay, and all major retailers have banned vaping supplies.. Then of course all major couriers have banned the transport of them. It is what it is.

Then recently I've been getting life insurance junk mail from different places, probably because of my age.

In the past they discriminated against smokers, usually calling it 'tobacco use'. I can't necessarily argue with that..

But now they've changed the wording to 'nicotine use', and almost double the monthly premiums. Huh?

Up until two years ago I was smoking cigarettes, and now I'm a WHOLE lot healthier since my switch to vaping.

Now, I know that insurance is one of the biggest rackets of all time, and they write rules (sometimes through Congress or state) to fit their needs, leaving us all struggling with laws and payments...

But what about medicinal use? Pharmaceutical nicotine is widely used to promote mental acuity, especially with alzheimer's or dementia patients. Those are the 2 top uses, but there are many more. It's been proven safe many times over the last 60 years or so.

Do the life insurance companies double the premiums, or worse yet refuse to pay out when the patient is prescribed pharmaceutical grade nicotine? The same stuff that's used in e-liquid?

My first thought is a class action lawsuit, but then that would be like going up against a big crime boss with unlimited funds.

Have the life insurance companies become prejudiced against vapers around the world?

Edited on 12/23/2021 at 8:13 AM. Reason:
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Damn, that sucks. So much for land of the free eh? Dunno about insurance companies, but here in Blighty, the NHS has been recommending vaping for ages, as you've probably heard. We don't have legal weed though, so swings and roundabouts. Sounds like you're all getting scammed, and the people who could fix the issue probably wouldn't find it to be in their best interests. Hope it gets addressed at some point, people got enough to worry about.
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#4 (permalink)      12/23/2021 9:34:35 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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While I'm not a huge fan of socialized medicine, it certainly has its benefits.. One being that they want to keep costs low, unlike the US. I've read where GB approves vaping over tobacco because of massive savings.

Marijuana has been completely black market for around 50 years here, but now you can even buy it at gas stations legally in certain states. I don't think the UK will hold on to those antiquated laws for a whole lot longer since the climate is changing.

Now it's black market vaping supplies. Go figure.
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It's not just about socialized medicine for I am here in Toronto Canada and we do not have the positive view on vaping as the UK does.

On the other hand, pot is legal but what used to be Starbux on every corner and under ever condo is now a pot store.
It's gone rather corporate.
All the cops, politicians and prosecutors busting people for pot years ago are now controlling the pot here 😂


We are also going through with decriminalizing all drugs, as in the Portugal model but vaping, still bad.

Edited on 12/23/2021 at 10:38 AM. Reason: typo
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Vaping is considered bad mainly because you don't pay a huge amount of taxes as you would if you were smoking tobacco. As far as nicotine is concerned, it is a mild drug, doesn't cause cancer, and has been studied left and right for the past 50 years, and is considered on par with cafeine. Nevertheless , as in all things that give you pleasure, they are trying to find a way to tax the shit out of it, as they are doing with the cannabis industry.
In the US, corporations rule. So, you're kinda fucked and you will do whatever they decide, specially knowing that the health care industry along with insurance companies can easily deny you the services you need, and make you pay a fortune for it.
Also, if nicotine was so bad, why is it that a pregnant woman can get nicotine patches to quit smoking ?