Product Request 21700 SMPL
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#21 (permalink)      2/8/2022 2:11:23 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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I just visited the site I mentioned weeks ago, where Overlords, Purge, and Complyfe clones, all 21700, all made by excellent clone maker WejoyTech, and all below 28.00 are listed....you don't want a "good" tube it seems, you just want a Chinese company to make you a special order device for 10.00, and buddy, it ain't gonna happen.

Mod (Anniepan) edited on 2/10/2022 at 12:02 AM. Reason: Attack
What does he mean when he says words?
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The above is the Vindicator switch housing. Though this is a V1 housing, the basics are the same with the V2 (constant contact) switch. Looking at the bottom of the housing, you will notice a star-shaped pattern of grooves, 6 grooves in all, for a total of 3 different positions for the fire button to "lock" into. You should notice the two vertical grooves go completely through to the other side....that is how the button comes apart.

By pushing your assembled switch's fire button, it will cause the firing pin to protrude, and the two locking tabs to be free. Simply turn the firing pin assembly to the next available location, which will do one of two things: it will slightly change the button throw distance, OR, it will cause the button to release for disassembly and cleaning.
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Edited on 2/8/2022 at 3:20 PM. Reason:
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C4, perhaps we visited different sites ?
I will check again the site with my two friends,
thanks for the tipp.

Perhaps Vindicator V1 is not the same like V2 ?
The part (not on your photo) which is sliding in the grooves
has a second spring inside,
and there is no way to open that thing.

Seems your V1 does not have the second spring.

Please evaluate first, then think, and then write.

And please stop insults, this is a technical thread.
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I have both, V1 and V2, but I only had access to V1 yesterday. They both come apart the exact same way, and I'm sorry if you feel dissed, but I have serious doubts that you have a Vindicator, OR have the ability or knowledge required to be using Mechs.
no insults, just truth.
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Very strange.
My new Vindicator has a second spring.
Maybe this is because "constant contact"
When you can not open the inside switch,
to remove some arcing, the mod is waste.

Perhaps you will find the time, to look on your V2.

And again: please stop insults, this is a technical thread.

I will check this 2 friends terrible website with my 2 friends tomorrow,
but I am sure, I will not find a better than 21700 SMPL solution.

And: " but I only had access to V1 "
Hey man, is this a "Kindergarten" ?

Edit: lets wait what the manufacture says,
but there is a big market in SE-Asia.
These people can not buy a 100$ mod.

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Nope, you are lying, or incompetent....one or the other. Push the button, grab the firing pin, and turn. There are plenty of YouTube videos that prove what I say.

Simple.

Or, should I say Smpl? A photo of this special edition Vindicator you have would clear this right up...don't you agree?

Hmmm....let me guess...you don't know how to post photos either.

Stop wasting everyone's time here.
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I think Troepfler wants to know how to remove the constant contact switch from the V2 button rather than how to separate the two main parts of the switch. If he stopped to look at the bottom of the sprung constant contact where it slides in and out of the housing he will see there is a plastic threaded insert between the two. however - removing this and cleaning the inside will make NO DIFFERENCE as the sprung constant contact slides in and out of a plastic sleeve. If he bothered to actually look he will observe that the bottom edge of this sprung switch contacts the main button when it is pushed in. It is the bottom surface of the sprung contact that needs cleaning along with the mating surface of the main button (and the contact top surface, all threads and the mating surfaces of the switch itself). If he bothered to do this with metal polish it would get the job done in minutes, but for some obscure reason Troepfler seems to like experimenting with alternative (useless) cleaning methods.

If he actually cleaned this area along with the regular threads and mating surfaces his Vindicator will perform to its best, but it will be unlikely to have the same performance as some of the higher priced tubes. Asking for a 21700 SMPL mod makes little sense to me - there are already a few sub $20 mediocre performing mechs available, I don't see any reason for making more. If you don't give a shit about how a mech performs but just want cheap I would recommend an El Thunder V4.
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He doesn't want anything, except a custom made, super performing, sub $10.00 mod, and him not being honest isn't helping his cause.

Again, both switches disassemble the exact same way, with almost identical housings. Sure, the V2 firing pin is longer, for "constant contact", but it disassembles Into 2 parts exactly the same.

I doubt he has one. I had my suspicions when I described how to change the throw...and he acted like he had never seen a Vindicator before, lol. The "constant contact" pin lengthener changes nothing about disassembly. Anyone who owns one would have it figured out in two minutes!

I find the vindicator to be a good performer, and mine are both stainless with copper switches....probably the worst of all versions...it's all about the build, and using good cells....I rarely clean mine unless they look grimy.

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I think he should watch a few Youtube vids of Vindicator reviews, preferably in German.

I get the feeling that the (Google?) translator he's using was designed by the Monty Python team. When I suggested this, he seemed to get a little annoyed and suggested that others should reply to him in German if they suspect his translator is the cause of the confusion - but I don't see the point. If all translators are that bad then I will only be sending messages saying "my hovercraft is full of eels".

But yes - him mentioning there is no system to adjust the length of throw on the Vindicator did make me snicker a bit.

I recommend he tries a decent regulated mod.
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No, there is no way to open the inside constant contact switch.
This Vindicator was my first bad buy, OK, just 17$.

It seems, our specialists found better solutions on the other site,
but they can not even write the name of the mod.
I will check this.

But so far, a 21700 SMPL would be a simple and cheap solution.