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#31 (permalink)      2/9/2022 2:50:37 PM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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No, there is no way to open the inside constant contact switch.
This Vindicator was my first bad buy, OK, just 17$.

It seems, our specialists found better solutions on the other site,
but they can not even write the name of the mod.
I will check this.

But so far, a 21700 SMPL would be a simple and cheap solution.
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Troepfler wrote:

No, there is no way to open the inside constant contact switch.
This Vindicator was my first bad buy, OK, just 17$.

It seems, our specialists found better solutions on the other site,
but they can not even write the name of the mod.
I will check this.

But so far, a 21700 SMPL would be a simple and cheap solution.



You do not need to open the constant contact section - press it together with your fingers and you will see the two halves connect at the bottom edge of the contact. This is what carries the current - not the inside of the contact switch housing. The sprung contact switch slides inside a plastic sleeve so obviously no current passes through from the inside, nor will there be any internal arcing to worry about. You are fixating on a problem that doesn't exist.

Just clean it occasionally USING METAL POLISH and it will be as good as it can be.

A 21700 SMPL will just be a larger version of the 18650 SMPL with a hotter button because of the increased Amp draw unless you maintain it properly..

Do yourself a favour - buy yourself a pair of external circlip pliers SKU 9698005, remove the circlips from the switches you have never separated in the 3 spring switch 18650n SMPL mods you own and clean them using Metal Polish (and liquid polish designed for cleaning brass will do the job) and for less than the cost of 1 SMPL 18650 mod you will have 3 decent mods (if you consider the 18650 SMPL to be good).

If they actually do manage to find a supplier of a 21700 SMPL mod you will still need to strip the switch to keep it working as it should - you can guarantee you will need circlip pliers to do the job properly.

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CC wrote:

"If they actually do manage to find a supplier of a 21700 SMPL mod you will still need to ..."


Our chinese friends are very smart.
And they have suppliers, which react very fast, this is the FT power.
And the manufactures perhaps sells a lot more to SE-Asia than to EU/US.

Start thinking.
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So you managed to totally ignore the two messages

1. Explains you don't have to clean the inside of the Vindicator sprung contact as it carries no current.

2. Explains the reason your 3 SMPL mechs with sprung switches don't work as they should is you have never removed the spring clip to clean them properly - the link shows the specific tool; you need.

You constantly ask how to remove a part from a Kennedy constant contact switch that doesn't need to be removed, but make no effort to actually strip and clean parts on your SMPL mods that actually DO need cleaning.

Nor have you ever responded to direct questions about if you have ever used the specific cleaning product designed to clean copper and brass despite your posts about totally fucking up your mods using vinegar, or spending 30 minutes at a time doing a half-assed job using isopropyl and a rotating brush

It doesn't matter if the Chinese manufacture a 21700 version of the SMPL as you will neglect it just the same way as you have the 18650 versions you own.

You are your own worse enemy. Do yourself a favour and buy a regulated mod - you really shouldn't be using mechs.
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CC,

it sounds, you will open here a big Kindergarten.
I was with the Vindicator clear "off topic" in this thread, my fault,
but I was very upset to see the inside of this beautiful mod.
Perhaps I am blind or you are blind, to see the construction errors.
We should close now the the chapter "Vindicator",
and your special hobby "how to clean a mech mod".

I have to check the other website again, perhaps C4 is right.
You will get the results within some days.

Please keep calm, the chinese manufacture knows what to do,
they have a big big market in asia.

Edit: I would estimate, the chinese e cig manufactures sell 80% to asia,
EU/US is just a small part of the game, perhaps first for special high prized mods.


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Troep, it only takes 2 minutes to check the 2 friends site. And C4W is correct, there are lots of good and cheap 21700 clones there. Also, best thing to help you sort out your Vindicator issue is just to post a picture.
We can't agree on everything.
#37 (permalink)      2/10/2022 7:05:59 AM US Central   quote/reply + tips
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philipvdb, yes a picture would be very helpfull, I will try next.
Needs some time until I figured out, how to do this, sorry.

I checked the site up to 30$ and I found 21700:
Bestia, Overlord, Vindicator, El Thunder, Stratum and Vazzling.
Some people say, there are tons of 21700 mods under 30$ on this website,
but I only found 6.
The 30$ link is:
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Annie, please do not delete this link,
this is just for discussion, I will delete the link within 1 day.

So far, I have no idea for a cheap 21700 tube mech mod, only 21700 SMPL.

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Troepfler wrote:

CC,it sounds, you will open here a big Kindergarten.I was with the Vindicator clear "off topic" in this thread, my fault,but I was very upset to see the inside of this beautiful mod.Perhaps I am blind or you are blind, to see the construction errors.We should close now the the chapter "Vindicator",and your special hobby "how to clean a mech mod".I have to check the other website again, perhaps C4 is right.You will get the results within some days.Please keep calm, the chinese manufacture knows what to do,they have a big big market in asia.Edit: I would estimate, the chinese e cig manufactures sell 80% to asia,EU/US is just a small part of the game, perhaps first for special high prized mods.



Trepfler - It was YOU that decided to discuss the Vindicator switch, I merely filled in a gap in your knowledge. Un

You may not consider me recommending the tool to strip the SMPL switch to be relevant to this thread, but as you have clearly stated in previous threads that you have not been able to separate switches held together with a circlip. You need this tool or one like it to maintain the SMPL mods you own - if anyone is interested in buying a SMPL mod it will be useful for them to know there is a tool available just in case they were not aware of it. The alternative is attempting inept cleaning methods like soaking in vinegar and destroying the spring.

Carrion gave good advice about separating the main spring components of the Vindicator switch and explained the throw adjustment - you ridiculed him claiming your switch doesn't have these features. Yes it does - try looking, if you don't understand what you are looking at - get a vape friend to explain it to you

Carrion gave you many alternative 21700 mods for sub $30, You told him he was talking crap, Now you say there are only 6 different mods - not the same thing Troepfler.

You alternate between trolling and being a cretin. Good job.

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Kindergarten, and CC is the the nursery nurse.

(hopefully Google Translate found the right translation for "Kindergärtnerin")

But why there is a big discussion about a good under 30$ 21700 tube mech mod ?

The question is very simple.

I would say, give this 21700 SMPL a chance.
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Troep, what is your fixation with that smpl? There are none and they wont make one because you ask for it. Do you think Geek is calling all of his suppliers to beg them to make one? Put the idea aside, forget about it and buy a good authentic mod which will last for ages.

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Fine - give a 21700 SMPL mod a chance, but if you don't understand how to maintain it what is the point in you owning one?

Buying 5 mods at $20 each, neglecting them so they only have a service life of months for each mod makes little sense - it would be better to buy a single mod for $50 that you understand how to strip and service than piss away $20 every few months for replacements.

But rather than arguing - here's a simple question -

Have you actually removed the circlips from your current SMPL mods to clean away the internal arcing?

You have never bothered to answer this I genuinely don't know if you are aware of how important a part of maintenance this is to keep the mod functioning properly, or if you just buy cheap and replace it when performance starts to drop.

I'm not trolling or deliberately trying to annoy you - but a simple reply would be appreciated.